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Tactic of intimidating someone, even if you don't have a very strong legal argument to make, it would be donald trump. >> right. >> that's the scenario we face. we have these conservative attorneying general who are failing to file a lawsuit against daca. never mind there are 20 different state attorneys general against the country who are prepared to defend the legality of daca. no matter the long, well-established legal precedent of democratic and republican presidents using their own discretion in terms of making sure that our enforcement resources are used properly in an immigration contex...

And when he discovers the full impact would change their minds that that president trump has faced -- has encountered this dilemma, i believe as described in the "new york times" story. it was not what can we do to make our system more fair, the dilemma wasn't about the nearly 800,000 young people in this country through no fault of their own and following the rules trying to make this country better. the dilemma was how will he req sill the ill-conceived promise he made on the campaign trail. so chris, when president obama was grappling with this decision, he took on a broken immigration syst...

No matter the legal precedent of democratic and republican presidents using their discretion in terms of making sure our enforcement resources are used properly in an immigration context. but you are right, this is one other example of president donald trump basically making clear he's a novice when it comes to governing. and he lacked the kind of acumen that we expect from people who are wielding presidential authority to accomplish their goals. and instead it's clear he doesn't know what he wants to do to accomplish his goals. >> there is this reoccurring theme which is the president obsesse...

Demands require executive to wield broad discretion, executive must prioritize enforcement resources in a way that makes the immigration system function effectively while balancing a range of foreign policy, national security, economic and humanitarian concerns. >> absolutely. we don't disagree with any part of that. rather, what we are saying is that the president has to implement congress's will. it can't be an unbounded delegation. i think if you read the government's brief you might think the president can have this such a sweeping delegation that he can name classes of people. the governm...

>> exactly. what i have seen from the first hundred days is a lot of sizzle and not a lot of steak. president trump has indicated that he intended to use his enforcement resources to -- with laser-like precision go after criminal aliens. there is a very small percentage of individuals that have been taken into custody since he has taken office who are criminal aliens and that's very similar to what we saw under president obama. president obama had a felons, not families, narrative that he tried to advance. when you looked at the data, it was really a lot of families who were being deported, up...