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Control advocate, and so there is -- arch ie is dying by a bullet. kevin keller is a senator, so there is a lot of kind of political themes that's going around in this. not sure how it's going to go over. but the final issue is on stands on wednesday. so we'll have to see. and we're going to say goodbye to the end of an era. i think it's nostalgic. one generation always asks the question, mary ann or engine ginger. i was team betty all the way. so yes. absolutely. i know they're laughing over here. >> i used to work in the same gym with ginger. >> really? >> she's very nice. she would say how ...

The person you turn to to have a sober discussion about race? i submit you go to al sharpton when you want to have the opposite conversation. the question is why did -- >> i don't really know that. listen, al sharpton is on a different network and i don't always agree with the reverend al sharpton, but the reverend al sharpton has been very outspoken in many ways, helped a lot of people. and the last time he ran for president, he was actually one of the most sober-sounding people in the arena. that's among democrats and republicans. >> he's one of the most racially divisive people in this coun...

Site called my red book. it was where all these women went and advertised their services for free. this is where the clients went for these services. and also this is where they rated -- people talked about whether or not they felt safe. so a lot of women are saying they're a little nervous now that this site has been shut down. but you can see the feds are really cracking down on this. as we know and as we see in this case, safety is in an increasingly big concern here. >> yeah, sex workers say that safety is an increasing concern. but my question is, i wonder if there is a demand. you see th...