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Christie is not suggesting people are packages. he is saying a lot of people overstay their visas and the united states has a right to ask them to leave once they do that. what's wrong with that? >> that's wrong is chris christie proves he doesn't understand the immigration issue. we know exactly where they people are. if they come in on visas, we have their home addresses. the problem is not locating theme people. it's been having the political will to deport them. when people talk about fedex and play into this notion, this is really an engineering problem. you can solve this on a white boar...

Fuentes, that the former tsa director, he is speculating about terrorism? >> what happens is if you are an engineer you look for an engineering problem. if you are in law enforcement like john and myself you think a human is behind this a criminal act, an abtct of suicide. your background and experience from prior crashes does point you in a certain direction. in this case we have the airline basically saying that they believe the co-pilot did it on purpose. >> should there be psychological profiles routinely, peter, for the pilots every six months or so just to make sure there's not a problem...

>> yeah. there was an incident many years ago which was conducting what's called an overshoot procedure and the systems overrided it and it ended up flying into the trees. what i want to say before we go down this route of engineering malfunctions is that this aircraft would have been at 32,000 feet or thereabouts. if there's any sort of malfunction in the system the pilot and the crew has a long time to start putting on emergency codes on the transponders 7700 that's the international recognized emergency code. they have a lot of time to start talking to air traffic, put out a more serious ma...

Improve economic policy. the problem is this is not trickling down, not getting inclusive growth and not getting job creation. it is not an engineering problem, that is most frustrating, not an engineering problem a political problem has to do with incredible polarization in washington. >> so a washington problem and you think it would get better if they would get their act together. i'm worried about the jobs part-time jobs, low wage and public sector jobs. one person described this as a bartender economy. is that what it is supposed to look like? can we keep america strong and if we are the ...

Not an engineering problem. that's what's most frustrating, christine, it's not an engineering problem, it's a political problem that has to do with incredible polarization in washington. >> so it's a washington problem. do you think the economy would be doing better if washington had its act together a little more. part-time jobs, low-wage jobs, temporary service sector jobs. one economist described this to me as a bartender economy. is that what a recovery is supposed to look like, and can we keep a middle class strong and america the driver for the world if these are the kinds of jobs we're...