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Support funding planned parenthood? >> yeah. if it didn't have to do with abortions -- look, i understand and have many, many friends or women who understand planned parenthood better than you or i will ever understand it. and they do some very good work. cervical cancer, lots of women's issue, women's health issues are taken care of. i know one of the candidates -- i won't mention names -- said we're not going to spend that kind of money on women's health issues. i am. planned parenthood does a lot of good -- really good job in a lot of different areas. but not on abortion. i'm not going to f...

>> is it a conservative of convenience, though, joy? it's interesting -- i think the scalia pick is an easy one for him. conservative for conservative. >> sure. yeah. it's something that he can give the party. >> right. >> mike pence was part of co-opting the religious right. >> what does he do if there's a second opening that would actually change it? he might not be where everybody thinks he is. >> i mean, i'm not so sure that donald trump is that doctrinaire on any conservative orthodoxy. what robert said is true, this year the republican party found that all of these ideological firmaments...

I did that in 2015 after my first interview with him. i thought the showman is going to be around for a long time. he said in the first interview -- i haven't interviewed him as much as you have, chuck. i've done it and kitty and joy, i hope he does "a.m. joy," it would be -- >> fun -- >> would love to talk to him more than anybody. he used to go to hear norman vincent peele at norman collegiate. he grew up on sundays. a showman extraordinaire. i think that's what we're in for. that it has politics attached, but it's going to be awfully interesting. >> one thing i picked up, every day trump wa...

Non-interventionist candidate. he's going to get pressure from hawks in his party to intervene in the middle east. >> we cannot discount how his personal conflicts of interest wind up influencing his foreign policy. we don't know to what international banks he is in debt. we don't know the extent to which his own pecuniary interests might influence his foreign policy, if his children are still running his company and there's a hotel to be built in dubai, does that influence his reaction if the government of dubai acts in a way we don't want, in turkey or other countries. these entanglements be...

>> i do, yeah. >> expedited. >> what do you do about the daka order where you had the grant for the dream act, however you refer to it? the executive order that the president, that is -- is -- >> the executive order gets rescinded. >> you'll rescind that one, too? >> one good thing -- >> you'll rescind the dream act executive order -- >> we have to have a new set of standards -- >> you're going to split up families, deport children -- >> chuck, no, we have to keep the families together. we have to keep the families together. but they have to go. >> what if they have no place to go? >> we will ...