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States, gorsuch substitute for scalia pick. a solid conservative for a solid conservative. if mitch mcconnell was trying to change senate rules now there would be a much bigger fight. there will be more backlash. he did it in the lower states. now it is poised to get somebody through with republican votes. >> so much for being the constitutionalist that mcconnell pretends to be here. let's just call the hypocrisy out. he's a on a bender. that will make this next nominee possible. >> the strong do as they will and the weak suffer as they must. jeffrey, i want to give you the last word here just...

Front-runners, although it wouldn't be surprising if there's another name that comes outside of the three. >> let's talk about the battal head. chuck schumer being vocal, what if anything can democrats do if they don't get the moderate republican, some say, they want? >> you're right, tamron. chuck schumer said we want a justice that is inside the main stream, and democrats have the ability to filibuster. now that said, republicans could decide to be able to break the filibuster where they need a simple majority and of course republicans control the united states senate right now. i think one ...

>> conservative of convenience? i think the scalia pick is an easy one for him. conservative for conservative. >> something he can give the party. bringing on mike pence was part of that. >> if there is a second opening that might change it, he may not be where everybody thinks he is. >> i'm not sure that donald trump is that doctrine on any conservative orthodox. this was the year that the republican party found out that all of these sort of ideological parts of the party existed with elites and at the base of the party is he talks the way they talk around their dinner party. probably to incl...

I remember being on the plane with him in august of 2015. i said, are you a populist? how do you define yourself ideologically? he said, costa, i'm common sense. he made news for breaking away from the gop. people in the party privately say he's probably the first independent president of the united states because he's not really a republican at his core. >> hugh, is he? >> i think he is. i think he will become one. i can binge watch those clips forever. i mean, i love watching donald trump use things like if it funds the abortion, the abortion like the nuclear. i was standing next to him, nex...

>> i was next to katy on the floor of cleveland when he brought up the speech perks the supreme court. the biggest applause line. the biggest christmas present that the unify the conservatives and republicans will be his supreme court appointment. i think he's going deliver. i think he's becoming a conservative. he isn't one, but he's becoming one because there's a lot of payoff there. >> is it a conservative of convenience, though, joy? it's interesting -- i think the scalia pick is an easy one for him. conservative for conservative. >> sure. yeah. it's something that he can give the party. >...