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Vote is a tax increase that includes a rate, each and every one of those republican members stands to have a severe problem with either donors, their voters, constituents and so forth. if they get a deal, there s much less credit that is shared by those who participate in it. so there is actual real personal pain for republicans if there is a tax increase. and you can make the same case for democrats if there s a real change to the entitlement age or some of those sort of cuts that make democrats very nervous. so i think for lawmakers, probably what makes it tough is that if it goes well, very few get the credit. if it is judged by their voters to be not such a great deal, there s a very personal price to pay. kelly, we talked this is michael steele we talked in our last hour about the timing of this. and mike allen and others were thinking an early or, you know, sort of late december, the 23rd, right before christmas time line for this. now the sentiment is this thing ....
We want to secede from that society. and the way to do it is to draw the line on spending and taxes, staff the federal government so it loses power, so that we aren t part of the social compact anymore. that s the real argument that s going on, and the congress is an institution, as an institution,% is incapable of deal wig that kind of fundamental argument, gefren the entitlement age and welfare state age, why you have the super committees and super duper committees and the smaller and smaller ring of people attempting to decide something. this sounds like i spent two years in southern africa. sounds like what the whites talked about doing. eventually going into some circle, like custard s last stand against the united states i. wouldn t put a racial tone ton but i would say the congress is not deal wig the fundamental question here. they refuse to do it. and they re not deal wig it now, because both because both bills, both plans, both the boehner plan and the reid plan don t d ....
Society. and the way to do it is to draw the line on spending and taxes, staff the federal government so it loses power, so that we aren t part of the social compact anymore. that s the real argument that s going on, and the congress is an institution, as an institution,% is incapable of deal wig that kind of fundamental argument, gefren the entitlement age and welfare state age, why you have the super committees and super duper committees and the smaller and smaller ring of people attempting to decide something. this sounds like i spent two years in southern africa. sounds like what the whites talked about doing. eventually going into some circle, like custard s last stand against the united states i. wouldn t put a racial tone ton but i would say the congress is not deal wig the fundamental question here. they refuse to do it. and they re not deal wig it now, because both because both bills, both plans, both the boehner plan and the reid plan don t deal with either entitlements ....
The guys understand that is to cut taxes. the tax burden is too heavy on businesses. businesses are not hiring because they believe the taxes are going up. sean: in 30 days we don t know what the taxes will be. shocking. at the end of the day, the tax extension the tax hikes across the board will be prevented. also, you mentioned europe earlier in the introduction. i think one of the things that we will see in 2012 is an actual conversation about entitlement for the first time. here is a question, though. you see what has happened to greece, ireland. we anticipate what will what in portugal. if it happens in spain it will be really frightening. we see 490,000 government jobs cut if great britain. we saw riots in france when they raised the entitlement age for retirement age. is what coming to the u.s.? this is what i was thinking about today. america has seen the future. and the future is europe if we don t change course. america does not want to be ....
The guys understand that is to cut taxes. the tax burden is too heavy on businesses. businesses are not hiring because they believe the taxes are going up. sean: in 30 days we don t know what the taxes will be. shocking. at the end of the day, the tax extension the tax hikes across the board will be prevented. also, you mentioned europe earlier in the introduction. i think one of the things that we will see in 2012 is an actual conversation about entitlement for the first time. here is a question, though. you see what has happened to greece, ireland. we anticipate what will what in portugal. if it happens in spain it will be really frightening. we see 490,000 government jobs cut if great britain. we saw riots in france when they raised the entitlement age for retirement age. is what coming to the u.s.? this is what i was thinking about today. america has seen the future. and the future is europe if we don t change course. ....