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>> i am undocumented but i dream one day we will be treated as one people. >> because we are all one people. >> one people. >> we work hard. >> we're sure. >> yet many of us don't have healthcare. can i get health insurance. >> now the country has spoken saying everyone should have affordable health care. >> does that mean everyone, everyone. >> eric: so folks that aren't supposed to be here want folks that are to pay for the healthcare? >> this entitlement issue on steroids. we have medicare and medicaid they are going broke and they are bankrupting the country. we can't afford to take care o...

The country wants to move. that they want to save medicare so they will look to the republican plan. the other two items in the plan is not mentioned is overall tax reform where we close the loopholes and lower the rate so individuals could get more money, instead of on the democrat side, they close loopholes to keep wasting money in government. the other item is we do energy reform where we become energy independent, creates jobs in america but also lowers the price of gasoline and lowers the price of natural gas that we see today that creates new manufacturing jobs in america. so when you lo...

To this debate about the budget. from where you sit as a governor, here you have this tension right now between the parties, and the president, i thought, really sort of clarifying his position this week saying we don't have a debt crisis, we are not in a hurry to balance this budget. let's focus on the economy first. >> i think we need to do both. in our states when i ran i talked about both the economic and fiscal crisis we faced and we acted on it. most governors, democrat or republican, not only because we have balanced budgets in all but once state but more importantly because we understa...

Governor, here you have this tension right now between the parties, and the president, i thought, really sort of clarifying his position this week saying we don't have a debt crisis, we are not in a hurry to balance this budget. let's focus on the economy first. >> i think we need to do both. in our states when i ran i talked about both the economic and fiscal crisis we faced and we acted on it. most governors, democrat or republican, not only because we have balanced budgets in all but once state but more importantly because we understand a balanced budget, it's spending within your means and...

No ratio of spending cuts to revenue increases republicans will accept. democrats will not cut or reform entitlements on their own. so there is no grand bargain to be had. >> it's the problem overall. one of the frustrations in washington is the fact you have on one hand the entitlement issue and you said democrats aren't going to move the direction without more tax revenue. on the other hand, you have republicans saying hey, if we're going to have tax reform we should reform it, get rid of the loopholes but put it into lowering rates to stimulate the economy. >> chris mathews, you made a poin...