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People. and i think that's important. now, again, i think that we will continue to work with congress, but the president understands that we have commitments we made on the entitlement side, in particular, especially on the senior side with respect to social security, that need to be maintained. and so, he's going to keep his word to the american people. >> but did you talk to some economic analysts they say social security, medicare, won't be there in a number of years if we don't address -- >> right. so for right now, i think it is budget we're laying out deals on the discretionary side. i t...

On the entitlement side and that's the way to do it, merge them. >> tucker: if those groups can live together, that would be formidable, thanks a lot for the spread of >> always a pleasure, send your last guest a copy of the looming tower, he needs to read a little bit. >> tucker: thank you, hugh. the nominees for the trump administration are being confirmed at the slowest pace ever, democrats are talking impeachment, will talk to one congressman who says his party's behavior hasn't been that bad, actually, that's next

By the way also enabled jeff sessions get confirmed by using the reed rule to destroy the filibuster. it's harry reid's legacy, it's a mess. it's a completely uncivil place that i don't know mitch mcconnell can repair even if he wants to.o. i'm not sure we want to repair it until after gorsuch is confirmed. >> tucker: it's an uncivil country out all of a sudden. you wrote a book on the fourth way, what's the fourth way? >> the fourth way is a succession to big government, ronald reagan's attempt to roll it back, tony blair and bill clinton's two rebranded, the fourth way is to merge it with wh...

It. and and then you saw other candidates either running away from the issue or putting forward myths about we really don't have to do anything to fix health care programs and that's just not true. the key to getting our budget fixed is dealing with entitlements. jenna: doug, it is confusing, that's why we have to turn to experts about, again, what is best for us and our families. is it pursuing a flat tax or hearing more on entitlement reform? >> i don't think you should pick. first of all, a tax rate is not a tax plan. you need to actually know what goes into the base, you need to know how i...

On the sequester, we're actually succeeding as a movement in reducing government spending on the domestic side pretty significantly. but there's no acknowledgment of that by some folks in the washington establishment. i think we should have been talking more about that. it's a real accomplishment by our party to try to reduce spending in that way and what we should do is now move to the entitlement side to start to work on that side as well. then we can really look towards tax reform and other things that are consistent with what a lot of folks who call themselves members of the tea party want...