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Last night in the same room about this issue. why couldn't they get in a corner and say i'll meet you at camp david or at andrews air force base, we were talking about this earlier, i don't understand why it isn't time already to sit down? you don't have to wait until the very, very last minute. let's talk about some of john boehner's plan, though. john boehner is not moving off of rates. he's stilling talking about loophole closures. do you believe you can accomplish what needs to be done on the revenue side and let's step plate democrats have to be more specific about us entitlement side. ca...

Testing on entitlements. do you think the democrats will vote for means testing on medicare and other ways to make cuts from the entitlement side to balance what you're hoping to get on the revenue side from the republicans? >> i don't think there is any strangle hold by aarp or anybody else on us. the president proposed last week some addressing of entitlements about $400 billion in medicare and others. there is no stranglehold. that's the difference. and i think the republicans in the end will decide not to go over the cliff with norquist. the consequences would be so substantial, as steve r...

A state, it's a negative one indeed. he says, in part that today they took -- they meaning the white house -- took a step backward moving away from consensus significantly closer to the cliff delaying again the real balanced solution that this crisis requires. of course we'll see a lot of posturing from both sides. are you persuaded that the administration needs to, and is prepared to do enough, on the medicare side, on the entitlement side, as well as getting these revenues, you know, from the republicans, concessions that speaker boehner says are on the table? >> well, i think the question o...

Social security. that they're going to cut discretionary spending. you know, i will pay more taxes and americans will pay more taxes but not just so they can cop out like so many governors do and not make tough cuts. >> i talked to really severe republicans in the south and alabama and arkansas and they say the same thing and say we're prepared to do that but not unless there's some significant cuts on the other side but they are. talking about the fact they really are -- they're prepared to raise revenue. >> if you give washington money is my opinion and give washington money with no strings ...

They know republicans really are willing to put revenues on the table if we can do it in a pro growth way. you saw the "washington post" editorial this morning laid out 750 billion an easy way of getting there. there is a way of getting there on the revenue side. the question is can we come to terms on the entitlement side by the way when you deal with entitlements you don't do anything that deals with the economy in the short term. $27 trillion problem which exists is medicare. that is where the focus needs to be. we can get to the appropriate revenue mix if we do that. >> senator you are in ...