last night in the same room about this issue. why couldn't they get in a corner and say i'll meet you at camp david or at andrews air force base, we were talking about this earlier, i don't understand why it isn't time already to sit down? you don't have to wait until the very, very last minute. let's talk about some of john boehner's plan, though. john boehner is not moving off of rates. he's stilling talking about loophole closures. do you believe you can accomplish what needs to be done on the revenue side and let's step plate democrats have to be more specific about us entitlement side. can you accomplish what you need on the revenue side just by flattening deductions and closing loop snoels. >> it depends on where you set the cap, but i think what's happening here is that the speaker has put on the table revenues, very specific number, $800 billion, a big number compared to where he was before. the president has said $1.6