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Stamp cuts and frankly to look, again, at the sequester. in exchange for letting that money rise a little bit, lightning up on the sequester to try to do something at least going forward long haul on the entitlement side. >> perry, really quickly here, jennifer rubin just brought up looking at the sequester. that is something we have heard from both parties wanting to take a look during these current budget negotiations, this big committee that they're convening. is that something that's politically feasible at this point? >> i think it is. looking at replacing the sequester cuts with somethin...

This background checks bill. and as you've all been saying, not just in your show, but throughout the day. this is something that 90% of americans support. it's the most common sense of common sense gun safety improvements that we could do. we believe that the senate should do it. >> quickly on immigration, i know there are a lot of things that can come up at dinner. "meet the press" with lindsay graham, he said he thought what the president had been proposing is proposing in his budget is a step forward on entitlements, that he is now open, depending on what they get on the entitlement side t...

Get cuts that impact the second ten years and the third ten years is to do it on the entitlement side. i think the president has already put chain cpi on the table. >> yep. >> his base won't like, and will he have to do a selling job on his base. if the president it is let's do this, i need another $600 billion in revenue, we'll give you, you know, two and a half, three times that in spending cuts, they're going to be real spending cuts, i think we have a chants to do something that's really meaningful for the country, and i must have been drinking because i never drink. you would think it's a...

You. there are a lot of suburban republican congressman who are absolute absolutely signing their death warrant. >> well, why not make the point on the sequester. why go to this extreme of a government shutdown. >> well, i'd actually agree with the governor. i think that that is a better spot to hold some ground. quite honestly, because those cuts are already in play. everybody knows they're there. they're across the board on the entitlement side as well as the defense side. and i think as the governor rightly pointed out that there is balanced pain. so there is some value to making a point th...

>> well, bill you know that and i know that in part because we watch fox news, and fox news reports it that way which is the straight forward way to report it. you can find that out from the other media, but you have to read it carefully because it's not apparent. all the conversation, all the discussion, all the news that's made in this whole discussion since the end of the election has been about what? it's been about tax rates on the rich. >> bill: right. >> that's been the whole story. the fact that the president hasn't come forward with anything meaningful on the spending side, especially...