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Together at the federal level in a way that i think a lot of conservatives should be skeptical of. >> phil, does any of this effort address the real vulnerabilities that russia tried to exploit in the 2016 presidential election? >> i don't think it does. i mean, if you are the president of the united states, your first comment coming into office would be to your national security advisor saying pull the team together and determine how we can protect, for example, voter roles from being hacked, not illegal voters within the united states, but efforts from outside. if we had been leading on this...

>> even people who weren't supporting hillary clinton, would understandably be concerned about any foreign entity hacking into anybody's e-mails here, whether it was the sony hacks, which were believed to have been done by north korea, it's not necessarily all political. >> what you just described we share your view. in other words, of course, we are concerned about a foreign government hacking into our information. you and i are agreeing on a principle but not an actual set of facts. i would tell you, another set of facts that we all know that didn't seem to get much more than a shrug and a s...

Entity hacking into anybody's e-mails whether the sony hacks believed to have been done by north korea it's not necessarily all political. >> what you just described we share your view. in other words, of course, we are concerned about a foreign government hacking into our information. you and i are agreeing on a principle but not an actual set of facts. another set of facts we all know that didn't seem to get much more than a shrug and a slap on the risk from president obama at the time and that was the 2015 hack of one million former and current government employees at the office and personn...

>> jim, thank you. the white house taking a more aggressive stance against donald trump on the russian election meddling. this week, trump called cia warnings ridiculous. he is not easing up. thursday, he tweeted this. if russia or some other entity hacking, why did the white house wait some long? why did they complain after hillary lost? the claim is false. the administration publicly accused hacking back in early october. a month before the election. privately, president obama met with vladimir putin in september. reportedly warning him to stop hacking or face consequences. >> the issue incr...

>> because the russians want you to repeat it. >> i don't know, tom. call my out on the show. >> hillary clinton needs a scapegoat. she needs people to think there's a reason she lost other than as kimberly points out, she was a terrible candidate. it's either the voting booths, russi russians, the alt right, voting booth. bottom line is she lost because -- >> there's something to be said that you have a foreign entity hacking e maime-mails. that's problematic. >> show me the proof they were hacked and not leaked. >> we don't know for sure is what he is saying. you had assuage and hannity said...