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As he realizes that tomorrow when that judge probably tells him no, you are not getting out, jeffrey epstein may be more motivated than ever in his life to try to change the circumstances of this case, to try to change the relationship he has with prosecutors. if he has anything to tell prosecutors about anyone else that could make an important case for them, tomorrow morning is the time when jeffrey epstein may be more motivated than at any other time in his life to tell prosecutors that information and provide to them whatever it is he can provide about anybody else who may have been involve...

Not all democrats, but these democrats, feel about things like ice, feel about things like dhs, which was created to protect americans after 9/11, what do you think? >> very deep divide, the kind of polarization that we just have not seen. we do not have the foreign enemy at war. we have threats from china, threats from russia and so forth. so we don't have a view of the dome a unifying force in heaven forbid that there be a 9/11, but i think we are a deeply divided country, but here's the good news, we've always been deeply divided. and we always will be deeply divided. i just wish the rhetor...

Your decision about whether to come forward is going to make a difference. >> joining us now our colleague stephanie gosk. what else did we learn from hearing from ms. wild and her attorney this afternoon? it's tough to hear this. >> it is. what is interesting about courtney wild is that she came forward back in 2005, and she started talking to law enforcement then. she actually reached out to brad edwards, her attorney who you see there in 2008 and said, according to him, i need help getting in touch with the government. he said, what do you mean? well, i need to know what's going on with the...

Equation not because he couldn't have a defensible response on whether or not the deal they struck on the epstein case was defensible but whether his presence would become a distraction from just about every other issue. >> hold on. whether or not you remove yourself or the president removes you, is there really a difference? >> a giant difference. absolutely. the president didn't ask for acosta's resignation. he withdrew himself to protect the president. wilbur ross should do the same thing because this was an absolute debacle. he failed to serve the president well in any sense. remember, the...

Journalist. you know you have family in the area of new orleans and you were texting them. you have a look of concern on your face. i hope your family will be okay. >> that's right, my family is right in the path of the storm. i'm from southern louisiana, and i hope everyone stays safe down there. >> on your network, you were saying you were surprised acosta's name was even put forth in the first place as potential nominee for labor secretary because of the epstein case. now that you've seen what's happened in the last 24 hours, what are your thoughts? >> i feel like this is another major brea...