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>> how would you have eric hold erred and the president answer a question, then, if he is asked about it in an interview. how would you have him answer it without talking about race when he is asked about race? >> by not stoking the fire when it comes to the issue of race baiting. what he basically did is a shot across the bow saying if you criticize us too much, you might be a racist. i mean, that's what some means in that scenario. >> that is not what some means in that scenario. you just made that up. >> hang on, ben. hold on. stop, stop, stop, stop. >> let me finish. let me finish. let me ...

Be due to his performance and not his skin lore? wasn't president obama already elected in 2008 and reelected again in 2012? you said the same thing to me on cnn yesterday. do you think the white house is using the president's race as a scapegoat to deflect from his policies? and is that responsible politics? >> i think it's quite clear that that's exactly what is going on. he says not all of it is racially driven, but enough of it is to complain about it on national television. the issue here isn't whether racism still exists in the country. and the issue isn't whether it's ever appropriate f...

Failure or incompetence and no racial implication. >> that's correct, and nor do the majority of the people and i'm surprised the highest legal office in the country is saying that. >> eric hold are did not say it's the majority of people. he said if there is a racial component to some of this. let's not be naive. you look at any public message board where people talk about the president, as i'm glad we have the right to do you will see direct evidence of racial -- it's a component. if we want to have a proper conversation how to move this country forward, think everybody, including the presid...

Worse than we thought. >> reporter: a rare evening hearing on capitol hill reveals the magnitude of the v.a. scandal has a new watchdog report shows new calls for v.a. secretary eric shinseki to go. >> it's time for secretary shinseki to step down and if secretary shinseki does not step down voluntarily, then i call on the president of the united states to relieve him of his duties. >> mccain and others are the latest to call for the secretary to go with miller saying attorney general eric hold should launch a criminal investigation into v.a.'s widespread scheduling corruption and v.a. secreta...

The pilates and the presidential waste gets gilt. we later go inside his house, a bizarre enormous empty manage with this girl's bedroom a rare sign of life being lived here. otherwise it was gawdy but vacant. even the tunnel linking the houses across miles and miles of grounds. luxury virtually never seemed to end. in his bedroom one bell for sex, one for alcohol. it was presumably a joke but how he lived to the people whose money this was isn't. >> no joke at all. right now authorities in ukraine have issued an arrest warrant for the ukrainian president. he was last seen in crimea a pro puti...