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Rhetoric is giving outside of that. the trust -- the distrust of institutions is undermining batted and if we can't be all on the fan page, we are in trouble. >> is an interesting duality we have right now. we have our political engagement and we have this high distrust in the government that that engagement creates. the interesting duality. >> and dynamic, here we are on the backup of january 6 talking about people who've had a seed planted to not trust the very system that we are in. thank you so much eric listen, we will be right back everyone on cnn.