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Analogy to the movie by somebody who rebelled against a parking meter that was controlling his time. >> the guys need the altercation to seem as real as possible. that starts with the cast. >> it's key to use people who are realistic. >> we use real people. we don't use actors. >> with that in mind, james and michael are ecstatic when she tries. >> i was a parole officer and a detective with the district attorney's office and never served as a traffic enforcement agent, but i've had numerous experience with people that have been noncompliant and difficult. >> and in the role of the saw wieldin...

Johnson auditions for the parking officer. >> i was a parole officer and a detective with the district attorney's office and never served as a traffic enforcement agent, but i've had numerous experience with people that have been noncompliant and difficult. >> and in the role of the saw wielding carpenter, they hire an actual carpenter, eric weis. >> eric was a carpenter who put an addition onto my own home. >> basically he asked me if i would be interested in doing this viral video to promote a movie. i said yeah, sure, what the heck? >> on the day of the shoot, they painstakingly recreate a ...

it is fantastic to be here. "ghosts in the wires" took two years. myself and my co-author bill simon bloggers will raise your hand, worked on this. [applause] i couldn't have done it without bill. we had much -- we had different work schedules. i usually slept in until 2:00 p.m. and worked until 5:00 a.m. and bill look of the 6:00 and worked until 6:00. i'd put him on spanish time for two years. ready for the second edition? if you know my background obviously was a computer hacker that ended up in a lot of hot water. for seven years i restricted from writing this book. i was release...