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Troops on the ground in syria. the president has said that. the american public won't top late it. there could be missile strikes, a lot of other options that could enforce this red line and keep assad from moving up the escalation chain. >> i've read very compelling arguments saying when you start talking about tactical or focused air strikes, practically speaking, that's very difficult to do. and i think in a lot of the arguments for intervening, people hear -- we mentioned the polls, people hear a lot of echoes of the debate we had ten years ago headed into iraq, and i think that's shaping ...

Way have been used. now the president saying we want a fuller investigation of that. and we have a report in "the new york times" today that sort of suggests that maybe that statement last august was more an off-the-cuff statement and the white house is sort of trying to find a way out of it right now. >> that was fascinating. and who once known or believed that it was an off-the-cuff statement that was going to be puzzling everyone for a few days because it does imply there's some attempt to walk away from it. >> there's definitely a division. i think the reason for this red line is not just ...