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Deliberately on germany to not send tanks. but that has not worked. in terms of the west, escalation management will be very effective. ed arnold from the royal united services institute, thank you for your time. marcus rashford is playing with such a smile on his face, it was crackling last night at the city ground. nottingham forest had been regulars in the cup semifinals but last night they just regulars in the cup semifinals but last night theyjust could not stop marcus rashford. manchester united are in pole position to reach the league cup final, after dominating the away leg at nottingh...

Talk about -- how high the stakes are. >> yeah. >> if the ukrainians decide to go rogue? >> i think from the very beginning, we've been -- mindful of escalation management. i mean, one of the things that we've tried to balance throughout the last eight months. hard to believe it's going on eight months now. making sure that the ukrainians have what they need to succeed and they have without having this war escalate beyond the death and destruction it's already visited on the ukrainian people. because, joe, a war that's escalated, god for bid, the use of weapons of mass destruction, is not only...

I think there's some credibility that wasn't just retaliation to the explosion on the crimea bridge. maybe they accelerated it a little bit. i don't know. but this is very much, what we've seen today is very much in keeping with the attacks on civilian infrastructure that we have been seeing over the last month to six weeks. we see it very much as a continuation of the brutality. the wanton disregard by mr. putin for innocent civilian life inside ukraine. it is very much in keeping with that. we don't know where it goes. the death and destruction that it has already visited on the ukrainian pe...

Continuation of the brutality. the wanton disregard by mr. putin for innocent civilian life inside ukraine. it is very much in keeping with that. we don't know where it goes. the death and destruction that it has already visited on the ukrainian people, i think you and i have talked about it from the very beginning. we've been mindful of escalation mind set as we've gone through security assistance to ukraine, making sure we are thinking through escalation management as we do that. again, having this war escalate beyond where it is, having it, with the use of weapons of mass destruction. it wo...