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The europeans are actually buying more energy from russia, both oil and gas, they are buying more. so there's no shut down there. the not going to be a shut down unless there are secondary banking sanctions or the escrow idea. he did not do that. he said it's not made to deter. do we want the ukrainians to win or not, that's the issue. as reagan said many years ago when i was a child working for him, he said we win, they lose. i want to hear that from president biden. >> sandra: you did not hear that. i know you have other, if you watch your show you know you have other ways to target him as w...

Did he leave your meeting any differently from, perhaps, when he showed up? >> his words told me he did. only his actions will tell me if his heart changed and i take everyone at their word and take they'll do what they say they'll do until they don't and if he doesn't, we'll see if we can come up with another plan. bill: i imagine you will be watching the oval office address tonight. what would you expect and hope to hear then? >> i hope that sense of urgency that this is something we have to attack, we can't be lackadaisical about it. i especially liked the escrow idea of escrow fund, i thin...

People don't come away saying that's it? that's all he said? >> well, i think they waited a while to get this done. it's a critical time. i think that this week, they have a full package going on in the oil spill. and it's a critical time. but they are waiting for a time when they have got something to announce. sounds like they will announce the escrow idea. now the administration has preempted them by taking ownership of that idea. i think maybe sit a good thing that they waited until now. >> there has been a growing drum beat of people feeling like this is an opportunity for the adm adminis...

Of its dependence on the need for oil. how should the president temper this? on the one hand it is an opportunity to push a legislative agenda. it doesn't seem like he is worrying about something in washington when you still have oil flowing into the gulf. >> he is dropping the hammer with the escrow idea and leaning on congress to take advantage of every opportunity. we could get the kind of legislation we have needed in decades but it took an oil spill to get it done. >> thank you. let's do our tweet of the day. this one comes from new media jim. and twitter silence.