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Because of your background. you prosecuted the blind shake, first world trade center bombing. >> yes, sean, not only that, a lot of the people players in this i know them for 20 or 30 years. a lot of it is unpleasant. >> sean: is the same people, would you first of all agree that hillary frankly it was rigged, committed felonies, do you have any doubt about that? >> no, i don't. i thought it was rigged from the beginning. i think that once president obama in particular laid out what i think is a contorted construction of the espionage statute, which is what they investigated her under, that wa...

The investigation completely. there are a lot of law professors who are taking a different view. but i have issued a challenge to them. would they be taking the same view if it were hillary clinton who had been elected president and republicans were going after her and trying to expand the espionage statute, trying to expand obstruction of justice and trying to get her? i suspect that many of the folks who are now trying to expand and contract constitutional rights would not. i am here as an advocate for civil liberties and the rights of everybody. >> norm, the president and his attorney, marc...

In sharing the information matter? i mean if he didn't intend to -- give up classified information he just -- he is inexperienced in the realms. >> if he were a private citizen it would because the espionage statute requires an intent to harm the united states. buts a the president he is exempted from any laws regarding classified material. although there's a process for did he clachgt. the separation of powers prevents congress from really preventing the president from doing what he wants with classified information. so he is probably not guilty of any crime probably hasn't committed an impea...

>> that conduct is not treated by the u.s. government as criminal conduct. i've been asked in other context, isn't it true that the espionage statute has no carve out for journalists, that's true, but in my life time, the department has been news gathering and legitimate news covering is not covered and it will not be investigated or prosecuted as a criminal act. that's how it's thought of. >> so an investigative reporter celebrating the libertes at the washington post or at the lincoln journal star or "the new york times" trying to talk to people in the ic and getting the maximum amount of in...

>> that conduct is not treated by the u.s. government as criminal conduct. i've been asked in other context, isn't it true that the espionage statute has no carve out for journalists? that's true. at least in my lifetime, the department of juisticejustice'ss been news gathering is not going to be investigated or prosecuted as a criminal act. that's how it is thought of. >> investigative reporter taking advantage of and celebrating the liberties that we have under the first amendment at the "washington post" or the "new york times," trying to talk to people in the ic ask get the maximum amount ...