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Charlie is also the league political blogger for esquire.com. the president feared routine in this. he fears exactly what i fear when one of these things happen. how do we come on and treat this as something that is not routine even though it has tajicily become routine. and the president's comments are far from routine. >> you're right. it was a very powerful speech by the president. a lot of it seemed to be extemporaneous and from the heart. the way he worked through this issue and the way he sort of appealed in a very raw way, i think, for people just to listen and pay attention and not let...

She ran hewlett-packard into the ground. i said, i will not say it. that her stock value tanked. that she laid off tens of thousands of people. and she got viciously fired. i said, i will not say that. >> that's donald trump just moments ago in hampton, new hampshire, talking about carly fiorina. fact check, largely true, basically about her record at hewlett-packard. joining me now, michelle goldberg from the nation and paul pierce, politics blogger for esquire.com, in iowa, of course, in clear lake, iowa, about a half hour away from the des moines state fair, there is the wing dings dinner, ...

Persuading to people who don't believe the koch brothers to be awesome. it definitely was speaking directly to the base. how does that counter what harry reid is trying to do which is trying to speak to the larger public about who the koch brothers are in his estimation? >> well, i think that, you know, there's a fine line between, you know, rousing the rebel and educating the base. i think harry is doing a little bit of both. the difference between the two, of course, is harry is starting from a deep hole because he doesn't have the megaphone and the right wing media bubble to magnify and str...

Elections when, perhaps, income inequality will be a top democratic plank in their platform. and so to sort of link around, you know, to put as an abatros around the necks of republican candidates the fact they're backed by billionaires, maybe that could have some success. but, again, we haven't seen either of those really working thus far at the ballot box. >> all right. well, you know what, i think harry reid fig wruring out you e to run against somebody, doing a version of what republicans did with nancy pelosi in the 2010 cycle. ken vogel from politico. thank you. >> my pleasure. joining...

Believe the koch brothers to be awesome. it definitely was speaking directly to the base. how does that counter what harry reid is trying to do which is trying to speak to the larger public about who the koch brothers are in his estimation? >> well, i think that, you know, there's a fine line between, you know, rousing the rebel and educating the base. i think harry is doing a little bit of both. the difference between the two, of course, is harry is starting from a deep hole because he doesn't have the megaphone and the right wing media bubble to magnify and strengthen the conjuring words lik...