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>> roland brought up, what do you do with all those other folks who are here? they leave on their own. enforce the law. it's a novel idea, but to reward law breakers is how you get more law breakers. >> you say they're going to leave on their own? roland martin, will they leave on their own? >> they're doing it in arizona. they're doing it in arizona. >> roland, go ahead. >> first of all, our framers established a constitution. we had to have a supreme court later clarify it. the supreme court decided the dred scott and later decided brown versus board of education. this individual and other o...

>> roland, go ahead. >> first of all, our framers established a constitution. we had to have a supreme court later clarify it. the supreme court decided the dred scott and later decided brown versus board of education. this individual and other officials are not going to decide what the framers thought. that's the purpose of our supreme court. now, if somebody wants to sit here and sue, they want to do that, fine. go ahead. to sit here and say we're going to clarify it, that's nonsense. i'm surprised the republicans who call themselves strict constructionists all of a sudden are saying we want...

>> they're doing it in arizona. >> roland, go ahead. >> they're doing it in arizona. >> first of all, our framers established a constitution. we had to have a supreme court later clarify it. the supreme court decided that did the red scott and later decided brown versus board of education. this individual and other officials are not going to decide what the framers thought. that's the purpose of our supreme court. now, if somebody wants to sit here and sue, they want to do that, fine. go ahead. to sit here and say we're going to clarify it, that's nonsense. i'm surprised the republicans who ca...