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Look at, is a lot of candidates should they drop out and i'm not making predictions whether they will or won't, i think ted cruz would be a good choice for them. we will wait and see who will win the establishment bracket. it is crowded this time. it usually is all by itself and funded. jeb bush is now almost relegated to second tier. he's competing with chris christie and john kasich and scott walker. and marco rubio. we will see who comes out of that. our task now is to consolidate the conservative vote. we hope to do that and will match up with the establishment candidate. >> when with i re...

Trump is not unique to trump. although he has most of the voters we'd like to tom to ted cruz, as you stated but i'd like mike huckabee voters to come to ted ruz, ben carson's voters to come to ted cruz and i think a lot of those candidates, what we look at, is a lot of candidates should they drop out and i'm not making predictions whether they will or won't, i think ted cruz would be a good choice for them. we will wait and see who will win the establishment bracket. it is crowded this time. it usually is all by itself and funded. jeb bush is now almost relegated to second tier. he's competin...

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>> what do you make of it? two-person race? boxing out bachmann by getting in on the tea party side? >> well, as mark said, we'll see how he performs. has perry is, what he embodies is the possibility, you talked about the different wings of the party. we talked on the show about different brackets, about establishment bracket versus a populist anti-establishment tea party bracket. perry has the possibility of a being a bracket buster. he has real appeal to evangelical, populist, tea party types. because of credentials in texas, longer serving governor in the country, longest serving governor ...

About, fields the excitement in south carolina and iowa in particular, it will be effectively for the time being a two-person race. >> what do you make of it? two-person race? boxing out bachmann by getting in on the tea party side? >> well, as mark said, we'll see how he performs. has perry is, what he embodies is the possibility, you talked about the different wings of the party. we talked on the show about different brackets, about about establishment bracket versus a populist anti-establishment tea party bracket. perry has the possibility of a being a bracket buster. he has real appeal to ...