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Muslim elected to congress in november as well. there is clearly a shift in some regard. is that because of the president as christina hallquist said? not necessarily. it's the way things progress. the reality is there is more of a willingness specifically in the democratic party to address and embrace candidates that in past political consultants with their wisdom would have said no, don't run statewide. >> let's go state by state. wisconsin. i found this fascinating. you had this establishment candidate who had support. the radio talk show hosts very supportive of her but this is a woman who...

Political analyst. let me start with you. do you like the idea of a biden biden-trump race? >> it might be a jerry geriatr. joe bought it will be at 68, he will be 74. >> martha: that's the new 58. >> thank you for that. what you see from a democratic point of view, biden in the latest poll beat trumped by i think 57-40. there is hope they are. the question for democrats is really about the primaries. can biden, who is viewed as an establishment candidate, who's had some difficult votes in his past, for example, the use of force in iraq, his participation and questioning of anita hill, all of ...

>> no. i think most of the focus -- this is true of all new presidencies. the first year, almost all the focus is on the white house, particularly when the senate and house are controlled by republicans, as well. look, donald trump's oxygen-sucking nature makes it harder for people to focus on democrats. but democrats did not have a great year. they ended on a good note in that doug jones wins. that's a big win not just because it's a senate seat, but it's a symbolic victory because it's a red state. i think we'll see more of this on -- joe biden on one side, likely to run. a conventional cand...

In the senate. i think that donald trump probably thinks that he got on the wrong side in the first place with roy moore. he didn't endorse him and he endorsed an establishment candidate. and he is trying to get on the right side. and i think it's true. he's not making any real serious moral calculus here. i don't think that's a real big surprise. >> it will. let's do one micro and one macro point. the microis the process. if we follow rick santorum's and other people have made that, that hey, if you're going to vote for roy moore, he may not be in there for long. so they have their investigat...

And clearly think these are credible accusations. so i don't think this is necessarily something that is just democrats are saying roy moore has done something bad, you had rick santorum on here saying if he gets elected, he doesn't think he'll survive being elected into the senate. he didn't endorse him and he endorsed an establishment candidate, and he's trying to get on the right side. and i think it's true. he's not making any real serious moral calculus here. i don't think that's a real big surprise. >> let's do one microand macro point. other people have said this, if you're going to vot...