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Also had conservative clerks. neil gorsuch was one of them. brett kavanaugh is one too. keep in mind, this establishment pick, he has over 300 opinions, as gloria was saying. and they're issues that the conservatives really like. issues of executive power and religious liberty. but there are some controversial ones too. he had a controversial opinion on the affordable care act and another one about some kinds of abortion restrictions. so those are out there, and these hearings are also going to feature george w. bush for his time there. some people wonder really, do they want to relitigate tho...

Actually praised rehnquist's dissent in roe versus wade. there's no question he would overturn it. i think jeff toobin a week ago or so said there would be 20 states immediately who, if that happened, would see abortion as illegal. there are 33 states right now controlled in the house and senate by republicans. 32 states and 33 republican governors. i'm just saying i think it's much bigger than what people realize, and there has to be mobilization. people have to express how they feel about this. >> all right. rick, a quick final word from you. >> well, i think that donald trump said he was go...

So democrats are not going to leave any stone unturned here, and it could require more time than the president really wants to give it. >> according to manu raju, he said chuck grassley said earlier tonight that someone with a long record will take time to go through the full record. this is a quote again from manu. and not commit to holding confirmation hearings until september. that really pushes it back. ariana, i want to get back to you. a graphic was put together based on analysis from political scientists saying kavanaugh is a lot more conservative than kennedy. he's closer to clarence t...

Perhaps kavanaugh, barrett. >> juan: you predicted kavanaugh. i was on the air. i thought hardiman was the guy. some people in the white house put pressure on the president because i think kavanaugh is much more connected than hardiman ever is going to be. a woman who served with hardiman on the third circuit. i think it came down to donald mcgahn, white house counsel. i think he and others really are tapped into kavanaugh and he is the republican establishment pick. he is a kennedy clerk, just like gorsuch. the problem for senator mcconnell was there is such an extensive paper trail. it's not...

I think that's the thing that ruffled people. >> harris: we have a former law clerk to judge kavanaugh. how surprised are you to hear kansantor um say this is an establishment pick not for conservatives? >> thank you for having me on. i could not be more enthusiastic about the president having nominated judge kavanaugh. he's an independent, fair-minded judge. "usa today" had an article that suggested on paper he may be the most qualified supreme court nominee in generations. he was a long record. he's written as many as 300 opinions in 12 years n that record there's a lot to like. and here and...