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It happen with this wide of margin? the next guest says it's a establishment party. republican establishment problem. a democrat who said his party did everything wrong in 2016 in many cases. chairman of the harris poll and former hillary clinton campaign strategist mark perron. mark, what should a republican take from governor gillespie loss of not governor gillespie but ed gillespie's loss is he not governor? karl rove came out and said listen, ed got more votes than the other republican candidate for when he was running for governor. he just more people came out. >> oh, i think when you loo...

That's the extent to which there has been any interaction. >> right, until you run for president in 2020. [cheers and applause] >> look, i. [laughter] >> thank you. abby: no real leadership do the democrats have an establishment problem? here to discuss is national justice director for the bernie sanders 2016 campaign tezlyn and democratic strategist and advisor to the hillary clinton 2008 campaign richard goldstein. good morning. >> good seeing you. >> thank you. abby: tezlyn, i will start with you here. one of the most likeable politicians i would say. as he even said he said i wish i were p...

Know. steve bannon, ousted strategist, working from the outside to challenge, and primary key lawmakers, challenge leadership, and president trump wants to be sure bannon is not challenging him beyond the alabama race, roy moore slated to be part of the summit today, sebastian gorka, bannon ally that was part of the foreign policy program. part of president trump's appearance is to show that base that he is not part of the establishment problem, he is still kind of that outsider, not predictable, he is his own person. that's part of a lot of the messaging you're seeing today with his appearanc...

Republicans have some tea party problem and some establishment problem. and basically they should get away from either me nighcally defending the establishment or the tea party. let the young people volunteer themselves. >> chris: 30 seconds. >> we have heard the tea party thing. we heard it in 2006. too far right it was called then. we have bad candidates. murdoch. terrible candidates. why did scott brown lose in massachusetts? why did we lose the north dakota senate seat? because of the tea party? if it weren't for the tea party folks and energy they brought to the fore, republicans would be...

Republican message. republicans have some tea party problem and some establishment problem. and basically they should get away from either me nighcally defending the establishment or the tea party. let the young people volunteer themselves. >> chris: 30 seconds. >> we have heard the tea party thing. we heard it in 2006. too far right it was called then. we have bad candidates. murdoch. terrible candidates. why did scott brown lose in massachusetts? why did we lose the north dakota senate seat? because of the tea party? if it weren't for the tea party folks and energy they brought to the fore, ...