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refused to talk about his role when loftily subpoenaed, he awaits sentencing. cnn's katelyn polantz was in the courtroom and joins us now. walk us through what happened in court today and how bannon reacted when the verdict was read? >> well, john, as steve bannon moved around the courthouse today, on the grounds in the courtroom, he appeared to be very much himself. he was smiling throughout the day, right before the verdict came down, when the jury came back in, he was waiting, on his phone, what appeared to be looking at social media, thanking his lawyers, patting them on the back...

now the man who cannot stop talking about overturning the election to his listeners, but refused to talk about his role when loftily subpoenaed, he awaits sentencing. cnn's katelyn polantz was in the courtroom and joins us now. walk us through what happened in court today and how bannon reacted when the verdict was read? >> well, john, as steve bannon moved around the courthouse today, on the grounds in the courtroom, he appeared to be very much himself. he was smiling throughout the day, right before the verdict came down, when the jury came back in, he was waiting, on his phone, wh...

Said he would do. >> right. or be able to get up on a witness stand and spew his rather or even just stand outside the courtroom and try to defend trump or put his arm around trump. two things i didn't say. i didn't see bannon fighting back vehemently on the street. i didn't see any of trump or trump's people coming to his aid, either. so it was very telling to me the distance that still remains, at least publicly, between these two entities, trump world and steve bannon. even though we do believe that there is some sort of level of communication or wink and nod communication, should trump run...

Outside the courtroom and try to defend trump or put his arm around trump. two things i didn't say. i didn't see bannon fighting back vehemently on the street. i didn't see any of trump or trump's people coming to his aid, either. so it was very telling to me the distance that still remains, at least publicly, between these two entities, trump world and steve bannon. even though we do believe that there is some sort of level of communication or wink and nod communication, should trump run again. i'm sure bannon will be behind it. but it is telling to me that there is public distance between tr...

Keep trying to call steve bannon and he won't call me back. i'm sure bannon is glad for that reference. if i could just talk about one thing about roger stone that i think all of us who -- maggie and all of us who covered him for a long time know. he talks with this tremendous bravado and likes to talk like a gangster even though he's not a gangster. there are references to the godfather in here, frank petrangeli. and the exchanges with randy creditco where they are having a dispute through the texts and he says i'm going to kill your dog effectively. that sounds funny when talking with roger ...