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too often in this country at another mass shooting in allen, it. just outside of dallas. eight people were killed and 7 were injured. the gunman was shot and killed by a police officer who was at the mall on unrelated call. a witness described the horrific scene. >> i never imagined in a hundred years i would be thurst into the position of being the first responders on site to be taken care of. the first person was clutched down covering her head in the bushes an i felt for a pulse and pulled her shead to the side an she had no face. no one could not bees effected it. it is just unfa...

Couple of minutes. you have multiple, multiple dead and wounded. it does not take long at all. these weapons are devastating. s it easy to reload. it is easy to fire. it just does mot take long at all and that is why no matter how fast the response the police really are, you're always behind. because you don't get the first 911 call until after the first shot is fired. that officer couldn't react until after he heard the first shot. and so you're already behind the curve when you take actionm and in the meantime, people are dying. >> chief charles ramsey, thank you very much for joining us for...