MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi August 29, 2019 19:23:00
Waivers. in the last 12 months our company has lost over $150 million making ethanol under this epa policy. so that's where we are working with the administration to say, hey, this has gone too far. this is not just hurting us. the we just happen to be a corporate entity that can withstand this. but there are a lot of ethanol refineries that are closing that are owned by farmers. >> reporter: why have you guys lost money? >> we have lost money because, number one, our demand has been destroyed by these smaller refinery exemptions. and you have got to fix this. your epa went too far. >> reporte...