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Decisions they have had in the last two years where they banned any kind of ethics courses that have biblical references. they banned commanders from telling men and women who serve under them there are programs that could help them in the chap plain as office. as you remember a short few months ago they ban ad cadet sending out e-mail that requesting people help with a charity to get toys for children for christmas because it had a faith component with that. this is troubling. bill: where do you believe it is coming from, sir? >> we know where it is coming from. there is small group of people...

>> reporter: despite his crimes, madoff says he's popular behind bars, telling "the financial times", he's gotten job offers from business schools around the country. >> he did say he had gotten requests from almost all the business schools in the country. he said that many of them were interested in collaborating with him on some curriculum. some were ethics courses he would be interested in working with and he said in particular he would like to work with harvard and northwestern. >> reporter: nbc news contacted harvard and northwestern and in separate statements, both schools denied having ...

Bars saying he's even gotten job offers from business schools around the country. >> and he did say that he had gotten requests from almost all the business schools in the country. he said that many of them were interested in collaborating with him on some curriculum. some of those were ethics courses he would be interested in working with and he said in particular he would like to work with harvard and northwestern. >> reporter: nbc news contacted harvard and northwestern and in separate statements both schools denied having any contact with madoff. >> to hear that these schools say that they...

The study of ethics. >> when the economy is doing well, who wants to think about ethics. it's hard to think about those things. i think in the light of the recession and latest scandals, it really brings the point home that this is very important. >> principal leadership and ethical judgment has to exist at all times. awareness of principled judgment is to guide action and behavior. what that gets pushed in the background, that is when problems start to happen. >> here at the university, a business school, ethics courses goes beyond things like cheating and places responsibility for customers ...