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Of $6100 over six months, well below market value. >> it appears to be a gift. here is why it matters. because the owner of this condo is married to a lobbyist who seemingly has business through his firm, the lobbying firm, important client interests at the epa. >> reporter: i should point out the epa does have an ethics counsel to consult to situations like this. i spoke with an epa official with direct knowledge of the situation who says this was not an ethics issue. the condo was not considered a gift because pruitt paid the value for it in the form of rent. the source added that the landlo...

Of the presidency said no foreign deals in new countries. there are questions that need sorted out when it comes to deals in the u.s., whether the kushners or any other counterpart where the money comes from as a part of these deals. >> does this give jared kushner leverage in a way could appropriate? >> i think the question the ethics experts the watchdogs here would say that is the money here, does that bring up leverage, that was a word we heard in the reporting, is there leverage having these kind of financial entanglements involved in the white house, does it bring another extra layer of ...

Company since he joined the government. isn't it possible this could all just be a coincidence. >> thanks for having me back. and i think it's a lot for us to be asked to accept the assertions of kushner's spokes people when you have these very troubling effects where kushner is talking to apollo, talking to citi. he's talking -- for heaven's sakes, he's talking to the apollo ceo about a job, about giving him something and then the kushner businesses get half a billion dollars in exchange and we're just going to say, oh, the spokesman says there is no there there. move along. absolutely not. f...

Pieces put together as that, all those facts it looks really terrible. so it's not a surprise that mueller is trying to figure out what the answer to those questions is and if there's anything more sinister going on. >> there's a long pattern, sam johnson, lyndon johnson's brother, nixon's brother, billy carter, history of family, often siblings who just can't resist taking advantage of their relative's power and prestige and always embarrass the president and seems to come with the territory and in this case he's working inside with an official position, kushner. >> this is one of the reasons...

For money, folks if your government said no. all the pieces put together as that, all those facts, looks really terrible. so it's not a surprise that mueller is trying to figure out what the answer to those questions is and if there's anything more stin centinister . >> there's a long pattern, i've followed politics for a long time. the history of family often siblings who just can't re cysi taking advantage of their family's power. always embarrass the president. in this case, he's working inside with an official position. >> this is one of the reasons why he's talked to ethics experts to tel...