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For us to say come on guys let's try something like this you're going. to try i don't understand why you want to reach the manufacturers like us they have so you can explain because i think the first thing you need to do the first people you need to talk to are the guys involved in medical ethics and they are not the manufacturers has to listen to all of the. first natural if you don't have another issue of course is the legal aspects of the u.s. so not just the ethics experts the lawyers that's an incredibly important target group but he does have to get them to think about where the boundari...

So today he's talking to the pyro society where he's a member of the board. pirate focuses on political education and its members have good contacts among politicians and academics. and hopes to get their support. for him would be grateful for ideas and support from your connections to find other manufacturers as well whether in europe or elsewhere . good i'm for us to say come on guys let's try something like this you're going. to try i don't understand why you want to reach the manufacturers that's the have so you can explain because i think the first thing you need to do the first people yo...

Has been raising. so to me, it's very odd you have all these ethics experts saying it was okay and the president then on his own appears to be conjuring up conflicts that he think bar mueller from continuing in his job while at the same time, ignoring much more serious conflicts of interest because he wanted somebody who he thought owed him something and wanted to keep his job. namely jeff sessions. to stay in charge. it's all very peculiar to me. >> preet bharara, thanks for joining us. >> thanks. just ahead, the it was a bombshell, but robert mueller already knew about the president's effo...

Was making about conflicts of interest mueller might have, on the other hand thought his own attorney general, jeff sessions, who was a part of his campaign, who was giving conflicting testimony is not conflicted and should not have recused himself. the bottom line, the way these issues are worked out in my office and every office in the country is by career professional ethics experts whose advise is given to keep people out of trouble and to make sure the public has confidence in decisions being made. when my ethics experts said you want to think about recusing yourself because of some con f...

Against the context, it kind of looks different because we have seen this willingness to mingle the kind of the official duties with promotion of the trump family brands to an extent that has surprised even the ethics experts who were worried about it at the beginning of the administration. it's difficult to disentangle the different elements of the personal judgments that voters are making about president trump. how much this way versus questions about his temperment or volatility or the way he talks about constitutions. there's institutions. there's no question part of that braid. it goes to...