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took a donation of a millon pounds from the bin laden family of saudi arabia two years after osama bin laden was killed. the family disowned him in 1994. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. south africa is in a long term flirtation with political and economic chaos. mass unemployment, power cuts and rising crime are stoking discontent and instability. my guest today isjulius malema, former anc loyalist turned populist enemy of the ruling party. could one of africa s richest nations be consumed by insurrectionist violence? julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well or the country is in ....
my guest today isjulius malema, former anc loyalist turned populist enemy of the ruling party. could one of africa s richest nations be consumed by insurrectionist violence? julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well or the country is in a crisis, that leader should leave office and give others an opportunity who can come and do much better work, because i don t think that mr ramaphosa has got a coherent plan as to how he s going to save south africa. but that s not the way democracy works, mr malema. mr ramaphosa has a mandate given to him by the south african people and, indeed, if you look at the business community, if we re talking about ....
of birmingham. this is bbc news. now, it s time for hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. south africa is in a long term flirtation with political and economic chaos. mass unemployment, power cuts, and rising crime are stoking discontent and instability. my guest today isjulius malema, former anc loyalist turned populist enemy of the ruling party. could one of africa s richest nations be consumed by insurrectionist violence? julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well or the country is in a crisis, that leader should leave office and give others an opportunity who can come and do much better work. because i do ....
julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well, or the country is in a crisis, that leader should leave office and give others an opportunity who can come and do a much better work. because i don t think that mr ramaphosa has got a coherent plan as to how he ll save south africa. but that s not the way democracy works, mr malema. mr ramaphosa has a mandate given to him by the south african people. and, indeed, if you look at the business community, if we re talking about the economy, it seems business leaders think that removing ramaphosa would actually make south africa s situation worse. no, democracy works like that. that s why our constituti ....
From selling livestock, and he s absolutely denied all of the allegations that you ve just aired. and the public protector, the ethics guardian in south africa, is now investigating the case, so why don t you just back off a little bit and let due process happen? politics don t work like that, where someone from london tells you to back off . there s no one from london who can tell us to back off. we do what we do, and we do it for the best of our people. ramaphosa has brought the office of the president into disrepute and we must be worried, we who love south africa, that our office cannot be occupied by a person with so many accusations against him, including torturing of women. we shouldn t be only obsessed with money. there was a female there who was tortured. ....