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We all remember how challenging, how long the process was to actually put it in place to get it passed. so what does that look like? he has majorities in both chambers. how quickly could this happen? how difficult will it be? >> i think reconciliation is to move exat tpeditiously but i th obamacare premiums and deductibles are riding on dining room tables with secretary clinton's ethics problems especially in pennsylvania, wisconsin. i just learned before i came out on the first time since 1928, tremble county ohio voted republican and it went red for the first time since 1928. i think that's ...

Because they're afraid of donald trump, or they're unwilling to support donald trump. but what happens to them if she were to double-cross them on tpp? do they take their medicine? or do they scream and yell? what happens if she continues with all of her ethics problems, but from the white house with more goodies to sell? does the media then stay on board with her? does the media turn on her? i think it's going to be a rough road for hillary clinton. >> i can speak for -- quickly, on the bernie factor. the bernie factor, the bernie supporters are with hillary clinton now and you can bet we wil...

The last four years, i'm your only ticket to the white house. >> i mean in terms of being a historic candidate. when you meet base democratic voters, they see her as a fresh face, because she would be the first feek male candidate president of the united states. there are a lot of vulnerabilities out there. >> if biden gets in -- this was the thing that was interesting about your draft biden thing, does he get in to win? right now bernie answers and martin o'malley are dancing around hillary clinton's ethics problems. i'm waiting for her to go after her on that. i think it would be a big probl...

He paid almost $2 million. but cut that back to less than 10,000 at a time to illegally evade federal bank transaction rules. when asked, he lied to the fbi saying he didn't feel the banking system was safe and saying kwet i kept the cash. that's what i'm doing. >> and pete williams joins me now from the newsroom. this is a mystery. dennis was brought in as speaker after bob livingston and newt gingrich both had ethics problems. >> i think everybody is very surprised by this because he was considered a very straight shooter, a boy scout, somebody who was above suspicious. he was investigated d...

But there is maybe an anti-incumbent atmosphere out there or is it just uniquely two guys who outstayed their welcome? >> i think that's probably closer to it. i think the mississippi race there is more of an ideological issue there with tea party people thinking he is not sufficiently conservative. we know he's conservative. with rangel, i think it really is a question of has he stayed too long. he's obviously been a tarnished figure because of the ethics problems that he ran into and he had a very close race the last time around. >> cuomo got behind him, he got a few people to get behind him...