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History is moving in the direction of same-sex marriage. do you believe that is true? i mean, obviously it's a fear, it's a concern, but you -- >> i actually don't believe the future belongs to same-sex marriage. i think civilizations that lose the ideas basic as to make a marriage you need a husband and wife or try to put in their founding documents the idea that children need a mom and dad is now bigotry are going to be in trouble, and i want to protect america from that trouble down the road. >> well, actually, the proof that the national organization for marriage and the millions of dollar...

State-sponsored, state-enforced discrimination. and when the state says to gay and lesbian couples you're not good enough for marriage, you have to be settled for a domestic partnership, that is straight out discrimination. and the judge found that it harmed gay, it harmed lesbian couples, it harmed their children, and it had no benefit. >> knows are attorneys david boies and ted olson at a rally in west hollywood. poll jooiz for the background noise. so what happens next? we'll hear from both sides of the marriage debate, evan wolfeson and maggie gallagher ahead. as always you can let you kno...