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>> laura: is it me or did he seem like clint east wood? i mean, that's pretty good line. how many teachers' pension funds, 401-ks, every industry that touches the oil industry petroleum is used in so many products, plastics. where does this go, mark. >> right. that's the problem with these kinds of rules that are vague. is it an executive, is it an investor in the company, is it somebody with a pension fund with stock in the company? what about the meat industry? there could be no end to this if you don't say look, we have to make a judgment. he raised money from who he raises it from. joe bid...

Have any investment in an oil company? does that disqualify you to be engaged? >> laura: is it me or did he seem like clint east wood? i mean, that's pretty good line. how many teachers' pension funds, 401-ks, every industry that touches the oil industry, petroleum is used in so many products, plastics. where does this go, mark. >> right. that's the problem with these kinds of rules that are vague. is it an executive, is it an investor in the company, is it somebody with a pension fund with snok the company? what about the meat industry? there could be no end to this if you don't say look, we ...