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And to beat donald trump. and become president. and so i'm focused on winning the nomination and going on and beating donald trump in november of 2020. but along the way of this campaign, what is true is that, you know, i haven't been afraid to bring up issues that a lot of other people don't want to talk about. won't touch. because i believe that the best way to beat donald trump is to be bold and to be fearless. and not to cower or back peddle against his cruelty or his division. but to lay out a strong, positive vision for the future of america so that everyone counts. and that we move forw...

Turn against these kinds of programs, even though a lot of, you know, people of all races have survived based on them and have not starved to death. trump does seem to be exploiting those racialized attitudes toward people of color not only on stuff like this but on immigration, et cetera. it seems like it works with a lot of americans. how would you as president address a country where, you know, a good 40% of the country thinks this way? >> you're right about donald trump. he's built his political career so far on exploiting these, you know, this bigotry and this anxiety and this wanting to ...

Hung hungry, homeless, and considered in the lower tear of the economic dealings with this country. what do you say and propose about dealing with poverty and hunger in america? >> number one, that it's time we did it. we need to invest in an america where everyone counts. and so i've proposed several investments and policies to make sure that everyone can prosper in our country, including expanding the earned income tax credit, child tax credit, making sure we invest in affordable child care so families can afford child care, housing that is affordable to both the medical center, the working ...

11th in terms of polling and money raised by individual donors. what are you going to do to make it possible for you to be on that stage in the next debate? >> i'll work my butt off between now and the next couple of weeks. the cutoff, i think it's december 12th, for the next date. we're getting to these early states, doing what we can to put out impactful policy and to draw attention to the difference between my campaign and just about every other campaign out there. i haven't been afraid to speak up for those who often don't have a voice, to fight for those who need fighting for, and to tack...

Candidates taking time to give back to the less fortunate, and that includes julian castro, who is using the holiday as a time to roll out his plan to help end hunger in america. the former san antonio mayor and former housing and urban development secretary is joining me now, though sadly, just on the phone. mr. secretary, i'm so sorry about the technical difficulties that keep us from having a face-to-face conversation, but it's great to talk with you again. i hope you had a great thanksgiving. let's get right to this plan that you rolled out on wednesday. why is this so important to you? >>...