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hearings. and there are big developments tonight on that front. you'll also hear from former trump white house press secretary stephanie grisham. she, like mulvaney, resigned from her administration post on the day our capitol came under attacked. stay tuned for both of them. the select committee, meanwhile, apparently just finalized plans for what could be its most critical testimony yet. our sources say the committee struck a deal for a closed door, recorded interview with former white house counsel pat cipollone set to happen on friday. he met with members in april for an inform...

Sher i.p. >> the point that mulvaney was making about how this might break the dam on 2024 -- it's clear in races -- in house and senate races, trump is still, especially in primaries, kind of the be all and end all. but there is a group of republicans just itching -- they all want to be president. and do you think this creates space? >> not a single one of them have come out and criticized this president that much. >> is that a prerequisite do you think? >> if they're going to have any credibility -- they're all enables. everyone mick named is an enabler. you have to say it's a witch hunt and...