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Strong policies to help our communities. to do that, we have to talk about what those policies are. people might spend a little bit more if we're doing a great job on a policy side or a little less. the policy has to drive it and i feel like there hasn't been enough discussion on all sides and definitely for members of congress about what their policy priorities are to bring us together and get a bill passed. >> i think, congresswoman, you're right. that is part of the problem. i think people generally agree with the goals but it is the specifics and i guess when you hear the words priorities,...

Youngkin are vying for the same voters, there was nary a mention last night about the possibility of a government shutdown. with the democrats in charge of everything on the other side of the potomac, mcauliffe is clearly concerned that there will be less deniability if the government goes dark. but there are independent analysts here in virginia who believe a shutdown is pretty much a republican tactic and that these independent analysts believe that the voters will see that as such. >> feels like a bank shot to me with democrats in charge, technically in charge of the house, the senate, and ...

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Dig in their heels the more people want to dig in their heels. >> yeah, well, look, i think it's maybe an old mix. certainly the drama that is playing out at the surface level in the public but behind the scenes that you see a lot of work happening to get to yes on everything. the bipartisan deal, the reconciliation package and everybody understands how critically important it is and how urgent it is. you know, let me give you just two more examples. housing. right. as i traveled throughout the state of california and frankly throughout the country, most major cities are experiencing epic home...

Things and make sure we do them very well. those are the things that have impacted our communities. if we do things for a year and have a cliff and then congress has to come back and renew it, that creates a lot of uncertainty for families because they wonder what is going to happen a year or two years from now. so i actually think we have to pick important programs that help families like the child tax credit is helping families already today. and provide that long-term certainty that durability. yes, that means making choices and that's why people have to be very clear what is important. but...