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And the embers from a structure lit multiple buildings in memphis on fire because large embers were flying through the sky and it was a windy night. some of the shots of the hotel, you see the smoke all going one way. because there's light winds. it's 63 stories tall. you're exactly right, the emergency goes beyond the hotel quite far. and also dubai with the fireworks, i think everything chief dunn says is spot-on and he knows what he's talking about. he's an expert in fire fighting, but i do just disagree with him on this one point. i don't think the city should have gone on with the firewor...

It's not under control, let's put it that way. you cannot make an assessment of those 500 rooms or 63 floors or 50 elevators. >> chief, stick with us for a second. we want to bring in retired special agent in charge, also part of this conversation. jim, if i can here, in terms of securing this building, securing the facilities in and around the area, you know, we heard there from chief vincent dunn the building is -- the fire, the fire is still out of control, at this stage it is extremely difficult to say that this fire has been contained, certainly by a percentage of 90% as the government of...

Point that chief dunn was talking about, striking a balance between image the government under tremendous pressure, millions of people, if not hundreds of thousands, there to celebrate, have a good time. they've got to show the situation is under control, if it is under control. where, as public officials do you draw the line between public safety and need to show that the government is still very much in control of situations no matter how catastrophic they may appear to be? >> that's right. i think if our public officials, law enforcement, firefighters, military, intelligence officials make ...