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President from conviction in the senate and this whole thing is a win for them. what do you make of that sort of debasement of the justice system and the entire process? >> yeah, it's so demoralizing. there is a big irony here. i think everything john and others said, it is a bank shot. there is no fine consistency at all. it will be an attempt to basically smear comey. here's the biggest contradiction of all. as of tomorrow, this i.g. report is going to be -- to have, you know, biblical import for trump. this is an institution within the department of justice that exists because the departmen...

Be honest with you, apparently the deal was cut last week everybody thought he was going to sign it and then at the last minute, this is sort of typical trump, you know, he's his own guy and he changes, you know that's why whenever you think somebody is out like mcmaster or two weeks ago, then you've got to think he might not have been out but then he is out so you got to be really careful with predicting trump and especially -- neil: wouldn't it had been more trouble had he vetoed it for the markets? charlie: long term i agree with everything john said particularly if these tax cuts don't wor...

Democrats like crazy. >> two things there -- none of the things you said have been determined. there's not been a determination about collusion, about obstruction, none of it. that's what's being investigated right now, so that hasn't been determined, so to say there's no evidence there, we don't know. we're not investigators. >> well, there's no evidence now, don, there's no evidence now. >> there could be, but that's yet to be determined. i think that gives people false home and also misinformation when you say there's nothing there because the investigation is still going on -- >> but don, ...

Want to hear party talking points from them. if one watches the crowd to spin us, you the same thing over and over. you're absolutely right. the minister of propaganda the third reich. mr. bill, for going to tell us who gives honest news and, should be honest. you should have disclosed that "the wall street journal" just like harpercollins which publishes your books is owned by news corp. which owns fox news. you are incorrect on everything john and i suspect you got that from some dopey web site. "the wall street journal" and it was the editorial page is run by news corp. fox news is run by 2...

Ready to go. >> you think he did enough to sell it? >> i think he did. i think he worked hard. look, you got steve mnuchin, steve miller, wilbur ross. >> i want to stick with this. go ahead, bill. >> i just want to say, you know what, it's interesting to me. this is the third president in a row who made this mistake of thinking health care has got to be number one. bill clinton did it. barack obama did it. donald trump did it. he made two mistakes. number one, he did that. this is a complicated matter as he himself discovered, right? i totally agree with everything john said about trusting pau...