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Unquestioned evidence that shows she could not have been involved. that has never changed. >> ted, what does it mean for amanda knox in terms of -- obviously she's not going to travel to italy, that would not be wise. what about if she traveled outside of the united states, is that a concern? >> well, you know, i know people ask a question about extradition. but it's really not in play right now, because first of all, she has another appeal to the supreme court of italy. in italy, under their system, you're still actually presumed innocent until that third stage. >> so they wouldn't request ex...

These proceedings. so she's done everything lawful. everything correct. she's abiding by all court orders, and her appearance then was not necessary, and it's not in issue today. if it ever becomes an issue, you can rest assured there are very substantial defenses that can be interposed. but i think we shouldn't get ahead of ourself. the bottom line is, there is no evidence. there was no evidence, and there never will be any evidence, and that's why this is such a gross miscarriage of justice. >> ted simon, glad to have you on. greg -- >> in fact, they retested -- >> go ahead, greg. >> we in f...