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you are asking for the opportunity to leave the new at least have the wherewithal and the confidence and the integrity to say i'm going to tell it like it is. because i would hope -- again, i recognized but i'm saying. people are probably chuckling and say that is not how washington d.c. works. well that's how it should actually work. don't call me baby girl. >> you call yourself a bigger. >> hey, i can say baby girl. [laughs] >> but you can't? i would say you are right. you are right though. that is how it should work and so we see some evidence i will believe it when i see it, how ...

doug jones who said the problem is that everyone during the 2016 election in the green room would say one thing about the former president before the cameras were rolling and the commercial break, and all the sudden, the lights came on and they said a completely different thing, because it is beneficial to them to say it. was it doug jones who said it? he's absolutely right. >> doug jones, doug heye, the two dougs, they call themselves douggy fresh, who are sitting behind the cameras right now. it is interesting to me, as somebody who would like to think that if you are asking for th...

Trump electors, and we have been told they are not target of this criminal probe. they were initially told that they were considered witnesses. what is this escalation mean? should expect charges? do you see this is an escalation? >> it is definitely an escalation. it doesn't mean that necessarily expect charges but they should not be surprised if they get charged. merely being brought in as a witness is exactly that. they are sought for their testimony, when they are target, that means they are being investigated. and could be the subject and could ultimately be charged. now, look, oftentimes...

Turn a lot of things over when you know that you are a prosecutor or investigator and they're in your possession. so, again, backing up everything olivia said. there is a moral or social failing, but also big we go into. >> thank you both, i enjoyed the conversation, so many questions right? so many questions about this potentially missing secret service text from the day of the insurrection. and now the national archives getting involved, demanding answers, but is there any weight recover the texts? ♪ um, she's eating the rocket. ♪ lunchables! built to be eaten. ♪

>> when we're thing done -- i'm sorry lavar. it is not just a good government think. it is actually the reason office to say things like text messages. because of they need to be turned over to defend its investigations and so one. this is an obligation that the government puts on banks to investigate them. but isn't preserving its own data. >> if you lose information like that. that could lose your case. it's a loss of evidence. >> there's practical reasons, but there's also a requirement under law to turn a lot of things over when you know that you are a prosecutor or investigator and they'r...