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Expiration of the bush tax cuts on january 1st, i think that's what the public is looking for. >> paul: you're saying only policy changes not symbolism, not saying we are he' pro business or studies saying we've created a new-- they're actually, to be credible, they're going to have to change course. >> but the thing is paul. >> yes. >> as we were saying, the stimulus, 862 billion, roughly a trillion, is no plan b. >> paul: i would disagree, i think the policy you're seeing, that's true. that was their fiscal policy, but the broader economic policy is everything sinls, the financial regulation...

Expiration of the bush tax cuts on january 1st, i think that's what the public is looking for. >> paul: you're saying only policy changes not symbolism, not saying we are he' pro business or studies saying we've created a new-- they're actually, to be credible, they're going to have to change course. >> but the thing is paul. >> yes. >> as we were saying, the stimulus, 862 billion, roughly a trillion, is no plan b. >> paul: i would disagree, i think the policy you're seeing, that's true. that was their fiscal policy, but the broader economic policy is everything sinls, the financial regulation...