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>> hold on. >> you don't know it's a crank unless you are a mind reader. >> does that sound like a master mind to anybody here? >> suzy, you are anxious -- >> who is a crank and who is a terrorist? all terrorists are mentally ill when you think about it. they are crazy. who is to say their psychosis happened to found terrorism. they are crazy as a person who has no reason to kill somebody. terrorists have no reason to kill innocent people. we can't say this is a crank and this is a real terrorist. we have to have the money. we'll spend more money after one of these things happens than if we th...

>> i agree with suzy. this is like the argument we had in the first spot. we are already spending a zillion dollars. let me show you the chart for u.s. cyber. can you figure this out? knock can. if we were to fight the hackers with acronyms, we would be in great shape we have so many out there right now. we should just outsource this to the guys at google and amazon together to come up with a vertical orb chart. >> i wish gary b. would get more emotional about this. >> what do you think? >> i think suzy and gary are right. we need a coordinated effort here. it's not that we have to completely ...

Trigger. >> he didn't know they were fbi agents. >> we don't know all the inside stuff on it. >> neither do you. >> why are these stories getting in the press other than to make the government look good? >> suzy is right. we have every is mentally ill. we are not spending enough on mental health. these people are clearly on the fringe of society and looking for opportunities on the internet to join radical groups. we need to crack down on the internet. do we take a cue from twitter and bar isis having twitter accounts? we crack down on the websites of the isis recruiters? i don't see enough ...

Should all airlines do this even if it costs more? >> i know pilots to it. most pilots are really good people and don't need this surveillance. with the fact that it is very costly, i think it would put peace of mind into the families of people who lost people in air disasters. on the offchance there is security violation going on, this is a way to see if two people are always in the cockpit as they need to be. frankly, in the big mysterious cases, if there had been cameras in the cockpit streaming video into the cloud, we would know where that plane was right now. >> there is a lot of argumen...

Allies overseas. it's very complicated. the strategy changed daily because these militias do not have plans. they are not part of the government. they are a group of rogue individuals full of crazy personalities fighting against a large army. >> suzy this is not mutually exclusive. we can spend over there. over here the threat is going. >> this is a both/and situation. you've got to be over there and here. far be it for me to use a sports analogy. i can't help but think about the great wayne gretsky. he went where the puck was going to be if. if isis is coming here, they say they are coming he...