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Ambassador sondland stated, quote, damn it, rudy, every single time rudy gets involved he goes and effs everything up. he said, quote, damn it, every time rudy gets involved, he effs everything up. >> one of those key figures being discussed, john bolton, and he has gone public in a way, kind of. he made clear being back on twitter this week via a twitter post. he claims the white house had kept him off the platform. let's bring in our panel. joyce vance, natasha bertrand, andrew carny and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida. all are msnbc contributors. joyce, we played som...

Sondland saying i don't know them, and it's blatantly obvious, it's pretty obvious now and walking to walk a tough line, a pretty tough line to walk. sondland was quite explicit about rudy giuliani, right? who is at the core of all of this and his work in ukraine. here he is. >> at one point during a preliminary meeting of the inaugural delegation, someone wondered aloud why mr. giuliani was so active in the media with respect to ukraine? my recollection is ambassador sondland stated, quote, damn it, rudy. every time rudy gets involved he goes and "fs" everything up. >> every witness, it seems...

Agreement about witnesses and where and how they testified and so forth. i do think it would be a complete farce to bring hunter biden in front of the senate. the theory under which that's been advanced has been disproven by every journalistic outlet that's investigated it and that's just another conspiracy theory of the sort that dr. fiona hill today was dismissing in her testimony. i hope it won't come to that, but it's entirely possible. >> senator coop, i appreciate your time. >> next, damaging testimony about the president's own personal attorney. >> every time rudy gets involved he goes ...

Sondland, "gordon, i think this is all going to blow up," and here we are. er reporter: hill was the hesident's senior director for europe and russia until mid- nuly. >> i was born in the northeast of england. gl reporter: she and holmes said the scheme appeared to originate ath the president's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani. >> ambassador bolton said that rudy giuliani was a hand grenade that was going to blow everyone ry. >> my recollection is ambassador sondland stated, "damn it, rudy. every time rudy gets involved he goes and "f's" everything up." >> reporter: republicans were ."moved. 'r ...