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Sounds so strange to him and we found out that the intelligence agencies actually didn't say they would meet today, they would meet on friday, that is a lie. i mean, this happens repeatedly with donald trump and we have to call it what it is. if that's how he wants to conduct presidency and the press conferences, then so be it. it's the duty for everyone else to open their eyes and as dan rather said, call a lie is a lie is a lie. >> but here -- none of us know what happened the conversation behind the scenes. donald trump was under the impression this was happening tomorrow. i know there was ...

Every single topic and more will be on the table but i think will be helpful to reengage with the press and people that ask him questions on a daily basis and put some of this to rest. i think lot of questions out there will be put to rest and behind him once he is able to sit down with the press. >> to lie or not to lie, bakari and kayleigh, interesting conversation. continue on the other side. be right back. your insurance company

You can call his statement a lie and i'll call your statement a lie. >> we're not. >> we want to talk about lies, we can't forget barack obama saying if you like your doctor, you can keep it. that's one of many that come to mind when it comes to barack obama. >> listen -- >> it's important -- >> hold on. there are a lot of people and a lot of politicians who say things that they may not live up to or what have you but if donald trump doesn't tell the truth, what's wrong with pointing it out? he is the president elect of the united states? we're not going to go back -- we're talking about hilla...

Even in press conference. i think kayleigh is right discussing with hilary fact that he handles press conferences and media very well because he simply lies and it's our job to call him out. today in most recent tweet about the national intelligence agencies lied. he simply lied. intelligence agencies had to come out and say there was no intention to meet today. always going to meet friday. >> "new york times" says unclear. >> no that's a lie. >> press handled bill and hillary clinton for more than a decade and not necessarily known for truthfulness. >> and one thing about the interviews, sitt...

But we're quick to label everything a lie when there was not an intent to list lead anyone at all. >> if you're not 100% sure, why -- >> more importantly, you repeated a donald trump lie a number of tiles and i've had to correct you in the fact that donald trump quotes this african american unemployment rate being 52 or 53% when we know that's not the case or the truth. i don't mind calling it a lie. i don't mind telling donald trump to his face that he has a problem with the truth. we can actually and i know that there is going to be a deflection by the right and people will say hillary clint...