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In essence put a few press releases out saying we're against this. then they took a show vote and ultimately nothing happened. that's the point. it's come to the point where the leadership unfortunately in both parties but there's those who now believe that we can't win an argument. we can't win going out there and advocating for these positions in the american people. so let's not even try. if you say we're going to do the best we can but there's no way we're going to win, in essence you've already given up. >> how do we solve this? >> that's my problem. we should have said early on we're not...

Right now, but i am saying this. we need to do a better job up front of saying this is what we're doing. and this is what we're not going to do and here's why. and in a sustained way over a consistent period of time make the argument in a court of public opinion. that's not going to change in my opinion until we have a nominee and hopefully a president that will do that. right now that's not happening. it's not happening in either house. it's one of the things that's leading to this incredible amount of discomfort among the base of the party and america at large. >> wasn't the election, give u...

>> i'm not calling for that right now, but i am saying this. we need to do a better job up front of saying this is what we're doing. and this is what we're not going to do and here's why. and in a sustained way over a consistent period of time make the argument in a court of public opinion. that's not going to change in my opinion until we have a nominee and hopefully a president that will do that. right now that's not happening. it's not happening in either house. it's one of the things that's leading to this incredible amount of discomfort among the base of the party and america at large. >>...

In essence put a few press releases out saying we're against this. then they took a show vote and ultimately nothing happened. that's the point. it's come to the point where the leadership unfortunately in both parties but there's those who now believe that we can't win an argument. we can't win going out there and advocating for these positions in the american people. so let's not even try. if you say we're going to do the best we can but there's no way we're going to win, in essence you've already given up. >> how do we solve this? >> that's my problem. we should have said early on we're not...

Special committee, a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. why? because she's untrustable. but no one would have known any of that had happened. >> i agree. i give you credit for sequestrati sequestration, i'll give you credit where credit is due. but here's what every conservative wants to know. >> yes. >> are you willing to defund obamacare and use your constitutional authority? are you willing to use the power of the purse to defund planned parenthood? will you use the power of the purse to stop the power grab of this president through the use of executive ...