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Why? >> they both succeed both built interesting companies. mark zuckerberg kept going up the learning curve realized he needed to change his game, created a diversified and strong executive culture where the executive teams were building in infrastructure and evolving the product as it wend. mark zuckerberg, cheryl sandberg and the team learned that. travis misstepped on some of it. he didn't learn now where we are logistics infrastructure so we need to working with kind of government and infrastructure and then we needed to be upgrading our work process such that i am handing more and more r...

Fast and break things. uber seemed to try to move as fast as he could to get greater and greater market share. one succeeded spectacularly and the other not so much. why? >> they both succeeded and built interesting companies, mark zuckerberg realized he needed to change his game. created diversified and strong executive culture where all of the executive teams were building in a much more formal business practice and evolving the organization that the products and services went. mark zuckerberg and the exec team and upgrading as he went learned that. travis misstepped on some of it. he didn't...

Long-time leader leaving "30 rock." >> yes. and you know, jeff was never going to survive the merger. comcast wants to come in, they want to impose their own executive culture on the company. as you pointed out in your introduction, jeff is blamed for a lot of blunders at the network. and even though comcast is getting nbc, the broadcast network is still the public face if you will of the company, the television portion of that company. so he was never going to survive this merger. >> right. although he gave indications that he thought he might. but i guess he knew he wasn't. eric, what is jef...