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In his transition in one appointment. what do you mean? >> think of how many lines intersect here. first, you have the preference for an executive experience over necessarily policy expertise. a lot of business executives and generals in this cabinet. that's clearly what he feels most comfortable with. you have the move right on environmental issues, despite the recent change of tone from exxon. certainly, it is a company that faced many questions over the years about its views about climate change. faced lawsuits on whether it was misleading investors about its exposure there. then you have k...

Policies really for the first times in their careers. >> okay. ron, going back to what we just heard donald trump say during the campaign, that these generals don't know nothing from nothing, so what changed? >> yeah. look, donald trump is an executive and he likes executives. i think that's a clear pattern here. we are not only seeing generals being put in these positions, but you are seeing a number of even former business officials. linda mcmahon and wilbur ross. there's a kind of preference for kind of executive experience as opposed necessarily to kind of demonstrated experience in the pu...

Do you take his request to you to heart? >> well, governor kasich is certainly right on the last point. that we do need unity. and maybe i made a mistake by even naming him. i'm looking for a candidate like john kasich, i thought i put that in the op-ed. someone with executive experience. >> but who will you vote for? >> i'm in a deliberations phase. >> i see. so you were thinking about john kasich but he says no, thank you. now you're going to vote for somebody, doesn't have to be somebody who ran for president. >> another republican. again, i'm looking for someone with broad-based legislativ...

Someone with executive experience, legislative experience, and it may offend some of your viewers, but a republican. i'm going to vote for a republican. it's just not going to be donald trump. >> so you would not try to throw the outcome to hillary clinton. you would want to absolutely vote for a republican. >> that's, that's my plan. and i think there's got to be someone out there who fits the bill and fits the need and will stand up. >> christopher suprun, thank you for joining us, really appreciate it. >> thanks for your time tonight. >> and we're joined now by a columnist for the washingto...

I think it's not to be lazy when you go to the ballot box. >> and who are you going to vote for when the electoral college meets? >> i'm not sure. i'm in deliberation phase. i've said someone like john kasich. there are others who could serve as well, but i'm looking for someone with executive experience, legislative experience, and it may offend some of your viewers, but a republican. i'm going to vote for a republican. it's just not going to be donald trump. >> so you would not try to throw the outcome to hillary clinton. you would want to absolutely vote for a republican. >> that's, that's ...